DesOur guest this week is Desiree (@sitakatherine), or “Des,” who joins us from Jen’s home state of Florida. She’s a podcaster herself, with the proudly not-safe-for-work “NonsenseCast,” as well as the TV-centric “What’s On With Steph and Des.”

She shares her love of “Falling Skies” on TNT, “Luther” on the BBC, and perennial favorite “Firefly.” Then, Des is subjected to our most awkward trivia segment yet, wherein we can’t quite decide how many answers count as a win. Nonetheless, Des was a great sport, her long resume of podcast guest stints clearly shining through as she makes us feel like we knew what we were doing, even when it’s painfully obvious we didn’t. بطاقة اونو